me: *points at cosima and delphine* love those bisexuals
part of clone club: *wailing in distance* no they’re huge lesbians…homosexual crazy science…gay puppies…why can’t you be happy they’re homogay…either of them…
I think you will have to excuse us gay people in this case. Yes, it is pretty obvious that these two characters are flaming bisexuals, but if writing a fanfic I would still portray at least Delphine as gay.
Why? Because this had always been about having someone to identify with. It is unfortunate and unavoidable that bisexuals and gays are often “fighting” over the sexuality of the same characters.
Maybe it’s wishful bisexual thinking, but do they have to be portrayed as anything? I mean, I suppose there are situations where orientation would come up, but for most stories… they’re together. Is it necessary to specify who they’d be with if they weren’t together? When I date a woman, I don’t think about what it would be like if she were a man, and I don’t wonder if she’s into men, I just focus on the person I’m with.
I guess Delphine and Cosima can go either way and I won’t mind (though “ew, men are gross” will take me out of a story), but I’ve seen the same “how dare they put my character with a person of the opposite sex!?” attitude aimed at Bo Dennis and Jack Harkness, and in those cases it feels like ignoring a large part of their characterisation.
Maybe there needs to be some subgenre or tag for bi-friendly (fem)slash…
Weeell… I do think perhaps you feel it doesn’t matter because it doesn’t matter _to you_. To me, it does matter, because I cannot really relate to being attracted to the opposite sex. I imagine a bisexual might have a hard time imagining _not_ being attracted to both sexes (and some bisexuals do claim that all people are really bisexual).
And yes, the “Eww go away heteros!” attitude is an unfortunate extreme of that emotion, but ignoring bisexuality or heterosexuality or whatever in favor of your own fantasy is part of what makes fanfiction so alluring. it’s not really about biphobia (at least that is what I hope), it’s just that the canonically bisexual characters are tempting targets for the gay audience.
I guess I got a bit muddled in my reply, but what I meant was: If the story is about the two of them, in bed or doing research or opposing bad guys or whatever, wouldn’t their thoughts and actions be exactly the same whether they’re lesbian or bisexual? I mean, I guess self-labelling would come up sometimes, but would it really be such a constant?
I guess it is different for me because the big hurdle for me was coming to the realisation of “not straight”, and anything beyond that feels like it’s labels coming from other people, not from me. It does feel very sort of backwards to me that it would be relevant in an intimate situation to think about what you’re not into, rather than thinking about how very much you’re into that particular person. But OTOH I do think if I were ever intimate with a man (which I haven’t been since I came out) it would probably require me to think more about differences and similarities, since it would be so new - and we know same-sex relationships are new for Delphine. So yeah, I guess self-labeling might be a thing.
I’m starting to get a feeling that this is subconsciously a contributing factor to why I’ve never written or read much femslash…
I can’t really imagine a situation where it would not be relevsnt at least for Delphine to redefine herself, unless she was crazy high or something, but then again, labels do matter to me, as do potential social stigmas. If I were with a man, it would surely be impossible for me not to compare, and I can’t recall a single bisexual I have been with who haven’t verbally compared the different experiences at some point, especially when they were with a girl for the first time.